His Views Promoting the Idea that Women Enjoy Being Raped
Purport SB 4.25.41
Prabhupada: In this regard, the word vikhyatam is very significant. A man is always famous for his aggression toward a beautiful woman, and such aggression is sometimes considered rape. Although rape is not legally allowed, it is a fact that a woman likes a man who is very expert at rape.
Purport SB 4.25.42
Prabhupada: When a husbandless woman is attacked by an aggressive man, she takes his action to be mercy. A woman is generally very much attracted by a man’s long arms. A serpent’s body is round, and it becomes narrower and thinner at the end. The beautiful arms of a man appear to a woman just like serpents, and she very much desires to be embraced by such arms.
The word anatha-varga is very significant in this verse. Natha means “husband,” and a means “without.” A young woman who has no husband is called anatha, meaning “one who is not protected.” As soon as a woman attains the age of puberty, she immediately becomes very much agitated by sexual desire. It is therefore the duty of the father to get his daughter married before she attains puberty. Otherwise she will be very much mortified by not having a husband. Anyone who satisfies her desire for sex at that age becomes a great object of satisfaction. It is a psychological fact that when a woman at the age of puberty meets a man and the man satisfies her sexually, she will love that man for the rest of her life, regardless who he is. Thus so-called love within this material world is nothing but sexual satisfaction.
Morning Walk — May 11, 1975, Perth
Prabhupada: Yes, that is law always. Rape means without consent, sex. Otherwise there is no rape. There was a rape case in Calcutta, and the lawyer was very intelligent. He some way or other made the woman admit, “Yes, I felt happiness.” So he was released. “Here is consent.” And that’s a fact. Because after all, sex, rape or no rape, they will feel some pleasure. So the lawyer by hook and crook made the woman agree, “Yes, I felt some pleasure.” “Now, there is consent.” So he was released. After all, it is an itching sensation. So either by force or by willingly, if there is itching, everyone feels relieved itching it. That’s a psychology. It is not that the woman do not like rape. They like sometimes. They willingly. That is the psychology. Outwardly they show some displeasure, but inwardly they do not. This is the psychology.
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Prabhupada was getting very old when he said these things, dare I say, slightly senile! And we are forgetting that he was born in the K.Yuga, so no man's knowledge in the K.yuga will be perfect or totally complete. He admitted himself that anyone born in the material prison is one of the 10% of souls that have misused their Independence, so he is one of the misusers of independence also. So Prabhupada was a fallen soul also- but he chose to try and rectify his fallen position by awakening his Krsna consciousness. You cannot take away his superior knowledge of the Vedas. Who else memorised them as well as him? He never claimed to be Divine, or an avatar. He was also falliable, subject to mistakes. The One who is not subject to mistakes is The Supreme Lord.
ReplyDeleteit's revealing to see the cultists come here to defend Prabhupada's racist, sexist and bigoted comments and teachings. it reveals volumes about how the cultists turn over their intelligence in favor of nonsense. i love how people who a few years ago knew nothing of Hindu culture, can, after a few readings of Prabhupada's books, look down on Hindus and feel incredibly superior while pretending to be humble.
ReplyDeletePrabhupada never instructed any of his disciple to behave in any way as sexist or racist or anything like that. Indeed he was very upset if anyone would display such conduct towards anyone. He would sometimes call his western disciples a white Negroes if they would make any racial discrimination. And what to speak about woman, he was always respectful in dealing with them. These few statements are from private conversations mainly, they are not the instructions to apply and are based on the Vedic scriptures. Those statements should be seen in the right context. By the way there is an ocean of beneficial instructions of Srila Prabhupada for improvement of anyone's life. Why don't you focus on that instead of squeezing out some apparent negative things.
ReplyDeleteEven if Prabhupada would never had mentioned any of those few things, a flies like man would find something apparently negative and focus only on that, hammering on and on.
Study Prabhupada's books, chant Hare Krishna Maha mantra with a focus for some time and test it your self. Also ISKCON is now far improved than in those early days, whose members didn't knew anything, very inexperienced, mere kids. Neither they had any remarkable good qualities. It was almost inevitable to make so many mistakes but we have learned a lot from our mistakes.
So focus on good, you will be benefited greatly. Even the best of souls were criticized, prosecuted, or crucified, by fly-like people.
Imagine your wife getting raped and I say she enjoyed it even if she showed displeasure. Fuck Prabhupada, fuck his tribe, fuck your scriptures that legitimize rape.
DeleteHe called himself an infallible first class devotee, who had Krishna appear to him to instruct his words. He said all words of a first class devotee should be taken as infallible and there shouldn't be talk of other things. It says on krishna dot org:
ReplyDelete--A first-class devotee does NOT fall down! You are correct when you say that when the Spiritual Master speaks it should be taken that Krishna is speaking. That is a fact. A Spiritual Master must be liberated. --
His devotees say all his nonsense about women having half the brain size of men and liking to be raped are true.
First let us look at the verse and first paragraph of the above verse’s purport:
ReplyDeleteka nama vira vikhyatam
vadanyam priya-darshanam
na vrinita priyam praptam
madrishi tvadrisham patim
SYNONYMS
ka—who; nama—indeed; vira—my dear hero; vikhyatam—famous; vadanyam—magnanimous; priya-darshanam—beautiful; na—not; vrinita—would accept; priyam—easily; praptam—gotten; madrishi—like me; tvadrisham—like you; patim—husband.
TRANSLATION
“O my dear hero, who in this world will not accept a husband like you? You are so famous, so magnanimous, so beautiful, and so easily gotten.